vivy -> RE: NHU QUYNH tro ve voi Thuy Nga (5/14/2009 11:27:21 PM)
Read my post careful.... No offense. ... I think, you missed some major points. Of course, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.... and my post is my opinion and yours is yours. That's all. This is an openness and fun discussion. Now, let's go into details what i said ... and what you missed...
I said: "IF PBN can elevate a well known singer, then ASia is better in finding a hidden gem and develope him/her."
YOu said :"even well known singers became much more famous on the Thuy Nga stage."
They are the same.... we both agree that PBN CAN elevate a well known singers since they do not need to train them... and like i said .... PBN's staging, specular pictures really catch the eyes and thus give more tools to a talented singer. The thing that ASia might have done better is to discover hidden talents...
You mentioned some names that currently with PBN, but i was talking about the TOP (class A) hai ngoai singers now.... ........the ones with real talent that do not need to reveal skin for attention.....and for that .... there are only fews left ... .. Tran thai hoa, Ngoc ha, Quang le.... YES ...but not the others in your list. Huong THuy, Mai thien VAn ( Mai Hau), THuy Tien, HO le thu were professional singers in VN before comming to PBN.... Duy Truong was on ASia stage a few times before comming to PBN . Compared Trinh Lam of PBN to Quoc Khanh of Asia ( started about the same time).... i think QK has a few more steps than TL.
I have to give credit to PBN where credit due.... Average talents like MInh tuyet, Duong trieu Vu, lUong tung Quang, Bao han would not be where they are today if not for the marketing machine of PBN.
No need to talk about Roni Trong, Quynh Anh, or Thanh Bui. .... Just like the movie... "if you build, they will come" ...In this case, if you invite, they will appear... To tell you the truth, they are not the reason i watched PBN... THey are no different than MUa he ruc ro of Asia when they invited some successful people within the Viet community.
I do not want to be a defender of ASia but you do not compare apple to apple....the list of names from Asia that you mentioned failed should be compared to the list of Van quynh, Hollie Thanh Ngoc, Huynh gia tuan, Tommy Ngo,...etc. Now, Shayla was a big name in the Viet community till she appeared in PBN.... what's a waste...
I already talked about TK, DH, NH... in my previous post of how they are better... so no need to repeat here.
Nguyen HOng NHung was in Van son first... but nobody knows her till her appearance in ASia with all the selected songs that enhanced her vocal talents.... Now this is the case of finding gem.
Now back to NQ... again in my previous post... i very much said the same thing that PBN made her famous since it caught her on the way up and she stayed 10 years with them so the memories are loooooooooooooooong and abundant, but out of 50 performances ... only a fews that stayed in my mind ( previous post)... while in her short time with ASia at the beginning ....even you said "People always mention Chuyen Hoa Sim and Nguoi Tinh Mua Dong - For that, i dare to say ... with a talent like NQ... she will shine whereever she works.... with as much fame and fans that she has now... regardless productions.... like a few real talented singers such as Y lan, khanh ha, truong vu, tuan vu.. Ten years is a long time, thus can not be compared to the last 2 years ... but if you insist on comparison... let's take her last 2 years in PBN (7/2005 to 7/2007) and the last 2 in Asia (8/2007 to 2/2009).... I think they are not much different...
In the end................everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
You guys made somethings out of nothing... And the story grows exponentially. NQ is a freelance singer so she can sing where ever she wants... She was in Tinh a year ago ( does not have to wait for 2 years) . Frankly, i am a fan of both Asia and PBN... I support good PRODUCTS... I did skip some Asia in 2002 and 2003 as they were bad and i skipped some PBN in the last 2 years for the same reason ( 86,87,93,94) I know most of you in here are PBN fans and so am I; but you guys see things in just one direction and so your opinions sosssssssoooooooo bias. NQ was in PBN for most of her career( and more important when she was at peak, young and beautiful with no competition ... (remember the young and beautiful NQ was one of the reason Ai van was gone.... and sadly time is a big factor, and NQ is facing it... not because ASia)... so of course there are more memories; but to say that her peformances are better in PBN than Asia is dead wrrrrrrrrrrong. Both productions have their strengths and weaknesses.... PBN for staging, dancers, and specular pictures ( sometimes ... very shallow in meaning) while Asia is known for superior sounds, musical arrangements and meaningful shows. IF PBN can elevate a well known singer, then ASia is better in finding a hidden gem and develope him/her. LOok at all the top hai ngoai singers now.... they either were discovered by ASia or some others and then polished by PBN. IN the old Asia, i remembered NQ in Nguoi tinh mua dong, chuyen hoa sim, and mua tren bien vang and her performances in Asia in the last 2 years were good and deep too like Tiec thuong, MUa buon, Nhung kiep hoa xuan ( Asia revealed her soul). Frankly, i can only say that her performances in PBN were memorable in Dem chon dau vuot bien, Nua vang trang, MUa rung ( admitted, she was beautiful in all numbers she appeared ... but so what... they did not stay in me, but a beautiful face).
Thien KIm is another story... she issssss muchhhhhhhhhh better in ASia and much more beautiful and developed in Asia as i watched the best of TK by PBN ( she was with PBN quite a long time ... 5,6 years) . ASia changed DOn ho image for the better as he becomes more mature, confident, and better dressed. Ngoc ha is no longer in a box of nhac que huong and hat chau when she came to Asia; and now she sings variety of music. I just mentioned those 3 since you guys compared them above.
Again, i would love more competition from all the productions so we, audiences, have more good products and I will support them all as long as a product is good regardless where it came from ......PBN, Asia, VAn son, Blue ocean, TInh...... etc.
Hmmm your post is quite interesting. First off I think your statement about Thuy Nga not discovering any new talents is not correct at all. Throughout the years Thuy Nga has taken some unknown or relatively unknown names and elevated their status within the Vietnamese music industry. People like Nhu Loan, Tran Thai Hoa, Ngoc Ha, Duong Trieu Vu, Huong Thuy, Duy Truong, Huong Giang, Quang Le, Thuy Van, Ho Le Thu, Mai Thien Van, Mai Tien Dung, Thuy Tien, Trinh Lam, Hoang Lan, Phuong Diem Hanh, Quynh Vi, Bao Han all came from the Paris By Night stage. These singers are truly some of brightest stars and most demanded in this industry right now.
Lam Nhat Tien and Thanh Truc were the only people from Asia who joined Paris By Night in recent years.
And Thuy Nga is the only production that has been able to invite Vietnamese singers famous outside of the community onto the stage - people like Roni Trong, Quynh Anh, or Thanh Bui. They understand the platform the wide-reaching effect of Thuy Nga on the worldwide Vietnamese community.
As for Asia, many singers they promoted, failed to make a name for themselves including people like Minh Thong, Khai Tuan, Chau Tuan, Duy Linh, Yen Phuong, Diep Thanh Thanh, Shayla, Phuong Nghi. If we had to compare this list to the list above, I'm sure most everyone would agree the singers from Thuy Nga are much more successful. Singers like Thien Kim, Don Ho, and Ngoc Ha were very established singers because of Thuy Nga before joining Asia. Nguyen Hong Nhung one of Asia's top singers right now came from Van Son productions before.
In addition, even well known singers became much more famous on the Thuy Nga stage. People like Bang Kieu, Minh Tuyet, Tam Doan, Luong Tung Quang have become the stars they are today because of the Paris By Night stage.
But since this topic is about Nhu Quynh, I'd like to share a few thoughts. True Nhu Quynh got her start from Asia. But it was Thuy Nga who brought her to the status she is today. Her 10 years on Paris By Night is what most people remember about her. I dare to say that if she had stayed with Asia, she would not have the fame and fan base as she does today. It was Paris By Night who truly brought immense fame to Nhu Quynh. People always mention Chuyen Hoa Sim and Nguoi Tinh Mua Dong - what about the over 50 performances on the Paris By Night stage? Some of her performances on PBN are unforgettable and unmatched. From To Tam, Loi Ru Cua Me, Khuc Ca Dong Thap, Mua Tren Que Huong, Chuyen Tinh Thoi Chinh Chien, Chung Mong, Tan Noi Mong Cho, Niem Vui Khong Tron Ven, Tieng Hat Chim Da Da, Chong Xa, Nua Vang Trang, Chi Di Tim Em, etc...etc...
For the past 2 years her performances on Asia are no where comparable to those classic Paris by Night performances. I know this is a topic that is perhaps very sensitive to a lot of people and everyone is entitled to their own opinion.